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Post by Lirisa on Sat Mar 19, 2016 9:55 pm

I was wondering if interalliance loans is something that is done on Orbits. Not a suggestion, just a point of curosity if it is being done or have been done?
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Re: Inter-alliance loans

Post by Godfrey on Sat Mar 19, 2016 10:17 pm

There was a player who was once in GPA named Ashland who ran a bank and would give out loans, though it's no longer around: https://politicsandwar.com/forums/index.php?/topic/3361-the-cirrus-bank-now-offering-consulting/page-1?hl=ashland

That was on a player to player basis, though I imagine there are alliances who do something similar with each other.
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Re: Inter-alliance loans

Post by Lirisa on Sat Mar 19, 2016 10:36 pm

Kinda intersting. I kinda like the concept of interalliance or player loans,monetary focus is fairly intersting to me though. it's probably not going to work quite well because you'll have people who would just be like " Just a game, I don't pay back what will they do? Raid me. So scary."

The work to give out credit scores to nations and alliances would be so daunting, and would only be good if other alliances and banks took them as credible measures of the person's trustworthiness or they don't as well.
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Re: Inter-alliance loans

Post by BuySomeChips on Sat Mar 19, 2016 11:13 pm

Lirisa wrote:Kinda intersting. I kinda like the concept of interalliance or player loans,monetary focus is fairly intersting to me though. it's probably not going to work quite well because you'll have people who would just be like " Just a game, I don't pay back what will they do? Raid me. So scary."

The work to give out credit scores to nations and alliances would be so daunting, and would only be good if other alliances and banks took them as credible measures of the person's trustworthiness or they don't as well.

I do a lot in banking. I usually issue bonds to the various banks in orbis, and they are for the most part quite credible.
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Post by ezioauditore16 on Sun Mar 20, 2016 12:12 am

BuySomeChips wrote:
Lirisa wrote:Kinda intersting. I kinda like the concept of interalliance or player loans,monetary focus is fairly intersting to me though. it's probably not going to work quite well because you'll have people who would just be like " Just a game, I don't pay back what will they do? Raid me. So scary."

The work to give out credit scores to nations and alliances would be so daunting, and would only be good if other alliances and banks took them as credible measures of the person's trustworthiness or they don't as well.

I do a lot in banking. I usually issue bonds to the various banks in orbis, and they are for the most part quite credible.

Ive seen other banks give money out to other non banks but with interest but that was long time ago. wouldnt mind seeing other lenders in pw.
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Re: Inter-alliance loans

Post by Covenant on Sun Mar 20, 2016 12:26 am

I feel like it would need to be done on a person to person basis. If it was an alliance decision it would interfere with the whole idea of true neutrality. (If you're into that sort of thing. Otherwise I would find it very beneficial.)
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Re: Inter-alliance loans

Post by Lirisa on Sun Mar 20, 2016 1:12 am

Is giving loans really interference with neutrality?

Again, not making a suggestion, but I having agreements doesn't mean an entity is non-neutral. Though you could get into about about trade neutrality.

Not giving loans and etc. is more on the lines of isolationist polices rather than neutrality, there are perhaps, concerns whether the trade/loan agreements could threaten neutrality, but in them of themselves it not non-neutral. Now, if we said perhaps, we will only give loans to these alliances that would be a non-neutral trade/loan policy.

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Re: Inter-alliance loans

Post by Covenant on Sun Mar 20, 2016 2:01 am

If two alliances are warring, by giving one of them financial assistance, you could be seen as supporting one side.

I suppose offering the same loan to both sides would change that though, but still it's something to think about imo.
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Re: Inter-alliance loans

Post by Lirisa on Sun Mar 20, 2016 2:22 am

In military history, it was often construed as non-neutral, even if a nation were to offer loans to either side of a conflict, so it's not without historical precedent to see this kind of thinking. So perhaps players and alliances would consider it non-neutral.

Though as I see it neutrality is can be viewed lenses. Sorry about the political philosophical rants.

Trade: the neutral party does not exclude or favor any party from loans or trades, and does not shape their trade policy on political concerns.

Politics: The neutral party does not enter to any pacts of mutual defense, neither politically or military support any side in a conflict, nor assert preference towards one part over another.

I feel non-aggression while it intersects with neutrality often is not contingent to be considered what is neutral.They are separate, distinct concepts. Neutrality, I feel is better thought of independence in own affairs and non-partisan in others'.
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